[From Kenny Kitzke (2001.11.15)]
Ray Bennett says:
"Onto another thing that puzzles me. Copernicus (correct me if I am wrong
please) helped the world to realise that the earth was moving and that the
sun didn't rise and set. Lots of 6 and 7 year olds that I know know this.
So do lots more older folk and yet most of them persist with talking about
sunsets and sunrises. What is more the few I have asked why they keep
saying sunrise and sunset don't care to change, they like referring to
this happening this way. I think Bryan visited this sometime back.What is
it that has us wanting to use language that is inaccurate?"
I will answer for myself in PCT sense. I still use "sunrise" to describe an
everyday phenomenon because I _want_ to act that way. I don't intend by my
action to convey that I think the sun is moving around a stationary earth.
Nor am I aware of anyone who makes that inference. Saying "sunrise" or
"sunset" does not disturb any of my reference perceptions. I feel no PCT
defined error and continue my ordinary behavior.
My Websters defines "sunrise" as "the daily appearance of the sun above the
eastern horizon." Isn't that accurate? What do you prefer to call this
daily appearance? And, even as a newer PCTer, could you explain what you
prefer to do also in PCT sense without any judgment of which of us is right
or wrong?
Please help me understand if PCT can help you solve your puzzlement over what
people do.
from Ray 2001.11.16.1310CST Aust
Thanks for the reply Kenny. I think I got into answering or looking at your
further questions. I will keep pondering them and look forward to hearing other
people's ideas about how PCT makes clearer what people do and resolves that deep
puzzlement that some are feeling at this time.
Regards,
Ray
Kenneth Kitzke Value Creation Systems wrote:
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[From Kenny Kitzke (2001.11.15)]
Ray Bennett says:
"Onto another thing that puzzles me. Copernicus (correct me if I am wrong
please) helped the world to realise that the earth was moving and that the
sun didn't rise and set. Lots of 6 and 7 year olds that I know know this.
So do lots more older folk and yet most of them persist with talking about
sunsets and sunrises. What is more the few I have asked why they keep
saying sunrise and sunset don't care to change, they like referring to
this happening this way. I think Bryan visited this sometime back.What is
it that has us wanting to use language that is inaccurate?"
I will answer for myself in PCT sense. I still use "sunrise" to describe an
everyday phenomenon because I _want_ to act that way. I don't intend by my
action to convey that I think the sun is moving around a stationary earth.
Nor am I aware of anyone who makes that inference. Saying "sunrise" or
"sunset" does not disturb any of my reference perceptions. I feel no PCT
defined error and continue my ordinary behavior.
My Websters defines "sunrise" as "the daily appearance of the sun above the
eastern horizon." Isn't that accurate? What do you prefer to call this
daily appearance? And, even as a newer PCTer, could you explain what you
prefer to do also in PCT sense without any judgment of which of us is right
or wrong?
Please help me understand if PCT can help you solve your puzzlement over what
people do.