Survey on Facebook

Dear CSGNet members,

If you have friends and colleagues who have not seen the behaviour illusion, and you think they might have five minutes, please forward them this link!

https://apps.facebook.com/my-surveys/tqtlfz

You can also complete it if you have seen the demo before. We have piloted this face to face for 100 naive participants and no one got it, so I am assuming the video and survey are OK, so it is certainly interesting so far!

Warren

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Dr Warren Mansell
Reader in Clinical Psychology
School of Psychological Sciences
2nd Floor Zochonis Building
University of Manchester
Oxford Road
Manchester M13 9PL
Email: warren.mansell@manchester.ac.uk

Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 8589

Website: http://www.psych-sci.manchester.ac.uk/staff/131406

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[From Fred Nickols (2015.07.02.0958)]

Interesting, Warren. I took the test but my answer wasn’t “keeping the knot over the dot.� Instead, what I observed the person on the left doing was countering what the person on the right was doing; i.e., the hand movements of the person on the left were the opposite of those of the person on the right. I think there might be two “correct� answers. One, of course, is keeping the knot over the dot. The other is something like “countering� or “offsetting� or “doing the opposite� of what the person on the right is doing. The second set of answers beg the question of why the person on the left is countering the movements of the person on the right but in terms of describing the observable behaviors of the two people they are correct. That said, I think the way I answered the question also illustrates nicely the notion of offsetting the effects of a disturbance.

It’s even more interesting to me because I know about the rubber band experiment and I’ve even conducted it a time or two but this is the first time I’ve ever stood to one side and observed it. Hmm.

I will make it a point to post the link in several places.

Fred Nickols

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From: Warren Mansell (wmansell@gmail.com via csgnet Mailing List) [mailto:csgnet@lists.illinois.edu]
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:06 AM
To: csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: Survey on Facebook

Dear CSGNet members,

If you have friends and colleagues who have not seen the behaviour illusion, and you think they might have five minutes, please forward them this link!

https://apps.facebook.com/my-surveys/tqtlfz

You can also complete it if you have seen the demo before. We have piloted this face to face for 100 naive participants and no one got it, so I am assuming the video and survey are OK, so it is certainly interesting so far!

Warren

Dr Warren Mansell
Reader in Clinical Psychology
School of Psychological Sciences
2nd Floor Zochonis Building
University of Manchester
Oxford Road
Manchester M13 9PL
Email: warren.mansell@manchester.ac.uk

Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 8589

Website: http://www.psych-sci.manchester.ac.uk/staff/131406

Advanced notice of a new transdiagnostic therapy manual, authored by Carey, Mansell & Tai - Principles-Based Counselling and Psychotherapy: A Method of Levels Approach

Available Now

Check www.pctweb.org for further information on Perceptual Control Theory

Hi Fred, I certainly see what you mean, as what you say reveals the actual hierarchical nature of the perceptions within most behaviours. However, the question was - what was the person on the left INSTRUCTED to do. They were not instructed to counter the person on the right… even though that’s what they ‘did’ on another level…
Warren

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On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Fred Nickols fred@nickols.us wrote:

[From Fred Nickols (2015.07.02.0958)]

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Interesting, Warren. I took the test but my answer wasn’t “keeping the knot over the dot.â€? Instead, what I observed the person on the left doing was countering what the person on the right was doing; i.e., the hand movements of the person on the left were the opposite of those of the person on the right. I think there might be two “correctâ€? answers. One, of course, is keeping the knot over the dot. The other is something like “counteringâ€? or “offsettingâ€? or “doing the oppositeâ€? of what the person on the right is doing. The second set of answers beg the question of why the person on the left is countering the movements of the person on the right but in terms of describing the observable behaviors of the two people they are correct. That said, I think the way I answered the question also illustrates nicely the notion of offsetting the effects of a disturbance.

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It’s even more interesting to me because I know about the rubber band experiment and I’ve even conducted it a time or two but this is the first time I’ve ever stood to one side and observed it. Hmm.

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I will make it a point to post the link in several places.

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From: Warren Mansell (wmansell@gmail.com via csgnet Mailing List) [mailto:csgnet@lists.illinois.edu]
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:06 AM
To: csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: Survey on Facebook

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If you have friends and colleagues who have not seen the behaviour illusion, and you think they might have five minutes, please forward them this link!

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https://apps.facebook.com/my-surveys/tqtlfz

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You can also complete it if you have seen the demo before. We have piloted this face to face for 100 naive participants and no one got it, so I am assuming the video and survey are OK, so it is certainly interesting so far!

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Warren

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Dr Warren Mansell
Reader in Clinical Psychology
School of Psychological Sciences
2nd Floor Zochonis Building
University of Manchester
Oxford Road
Manchester M13 9PL
Email: warren.mansell@manchester.ac.uk
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Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 8589
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Website: http://www.psych-sci.manchester.ac.uk/staff/131406

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Advanced notice of a new transdiagnostic therapy manual, authored by Carey, Mansell & Tai - Principles-Based Counselling and Psychotherapy: A Method of Levels Approach

Available Now

Check www.pctweb.org for further information on Perceptual Control Theory

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Dr Warren Mansell
Reader in Clinical Psychology
School of Psychological Sciences
2nd Floor Zochonis Building
University of Manchester
Oxford Road
Manchester M13 9PL
Email: warren.mansell@manchester.ac.uk
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Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 8589
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Website: http://www.psych-sci.manchester.ac.uk/staff/131406
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Advanced notice of a new transdiagnostic therapy manual, authored by Carey, Mansell & Tai - Principles-Based Counselling and Psychotherapy: A Method of Levels Approach

Available Now

Check www.pctweb.org for further information on Perceptual Control Theory