the amazing power of perceptions/representations of money to shape our behavior, even in the very short term. Fascinating.

This appeared in the latest Free Inquiry magazine. I found it on the
website of Project Syndicate as well, and copied it from there.

I checked out the original article.* I think its conclusions hold up, and
that Singer represents them accurately here.

Ted

···

___________
* The psychological consequences of money. Science, vol. 314, 17 Nov 06, p.
1154.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Project Syndicate
The Hidden Costs of Money
by Peter Singer

PRINCETON - When people say that "Money is the root of all evil," they
usually don't mean that money itself is the root of evil. Like Saint Paul,
from whom the quote comes, they have in mind the love of money. Could money
itself, whether we are greedy for it or not, be a problem?

Karl Marx thought so. In The Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844,
a youthful work that remained unpublished and largely unknown until the
mid-twentieth century, Marx describes money as "the universal agent of
separation," because it transforms human characteristics into something
else. A man may be ugly, Marx wrote, but if he has money, he can buy for
himself "the most beautiful of women." Without money, presumably, some more
positive human qualities would be needed. Money alienates us, Marx thought,
from our true human nature and from our fellow human beings.

Marx's reputation sank once it became evident that he was wrong to predict
that a workers' revolution would usher in a new era with a better life for
everyone. So if we had only his word for the alienating effects of money, we
might feel free to dismiss it as an element of a misguided ideology. But
research by Kathleen Vohs, Nicole Mead, and Miranda Goode, reported in
Science in 2006, suggests that on this point, at least, Marx was onto
something.

In a series of experiments, Vohs and her colleagues found ways to get people
to think about money without explicitly telling them to do so. They gave
some people tasks that involved unscrambling phrases about money. With
others, they left piles of Monopoly money nearby. Another group saw a
screensaver with various denominations of money. Other people, randomly
selected, unscrambled phrases that were not about money, did not see
Monopoly money, and saw different screensavers. In each case, those who had
been led to think about money - let's call them "the money group" - behaved
differently from those who had not.

    * When given a difficult task and told that help was available, people
in the money group took longer to ask for help.

    * When asked for help, people in the money group spent less time
helping.

    * When told to move their chair so that they could talk with someone
else, people in the money group left a greater distance between chairs.

    * When asked to choose a leisure activity, people in the money group
were more likely to choose an activity that could be enjoyed alone, rather
than one that involved others.

    * Finally, when people in the money group were invited to donate some of
the money they had been paid for participation in the experiment, they gave
less than those who had not been induced to think about money.

Trivial reminders of money made a surprisingly large difference. For
example, where the control group would offer to spend an average of 42
minutes helping someone with a task, those primed to think about money
offered only 25 minutes. Similarly, when someone pretending to be another
participant in the experiment asked for help, the money group spent only
half as much time helping her. When asked to make a donation from their
earnings, the money group gave just a little over half as much as the
control group.

Why does money makes us less willing to seek or give help, or even to sit
close to others? Vohs and her colleagues suggest that as societies began to
use money, the necessity of relying on family and friends diminished, and
people were able to become more self-sufficient. "In this way," they
conclude, "money enhanced individualism but diminished communal motivations,
an effect that is still apparent in people's responses today."

That's not much of an explanation of why being reminded of money should make
so much difference to how we behave, given that we all use money everyday.
There seems to be something going on here that we still don't fully
understand.

I am not pleading for a return to the simpler days of barter or
self-sufficiency. Money enables us to trade - and thus to benefit from each
other's special skills and advantages. Without money, we would be
immeasurably poorer, and not only in a financial sense.

But now that we are aware of the isolating power that even the thought of
money can have, we can no longer think of money's role as being entirely
neutral. If, for example, a local parents' organization wants to build a
children's playground, should it ask its members to do the work on a
voluntary basis, or should it launch a fundraising campaign so that an
outside contractor can be employed?

Harvard economist Roland Fryer's proposal to pay poor students for doing
well at school is another area where using money is open to question. If
money were neutral, this would be just a question of whether the benefits of
using money outweigh the financial costs. Often, they will - for example, if
the parents lack the skills to build a good playground. But it would be a
mistake to assume that allowing money to dominate every sphere of life comes
without other costs that are difficult to express in financial terms.

Peter Singer is Professor of Bioethics at Princeton University and the
author of Animal Liberation, Practical Ethics, and other books. He is
currently working on a book about philanthropy and world poverty.

Copyright: Project Syndicate, 2008.
www.project-syndicate.org

[From Bill Powers (2008.12.06.1049 MST)]

Ted Cloak (2008.12.05.1735 MST) --

Here's the abstract of the Science article:

"Money has been said to change people's motivation (mainly for the better)
and their behavior toward others (mainly for the worse). The results of nine
experiments suggest that money brings about a self-sufficient orientation in
which people prefer to be free of dependency and dependents. Reminders of
money, relative to nonmoney reminders, led to reduced requests for help and
reduced helpfulness toward others. Relative to participants primed with
neutral concepts, participants primed with money preferred to play alone,
work alone, and put more physical distance between themselves and a new
acquaintance."

Each experiment involved a different set of subjects, apparently. Ns were in
the 30s through 60s, with none smaller than 35. All results represented
_tendencies_; i.e., differences betweens means of experimental groups
(usually two in each experiment) and control groups. Some differences were
quite striking, all were statistically significant at p<.05 or better.
Singer should have inserted the words "on average", perhaps, in each of the
statements you quote.

That doesn't really answer my question -- what I really want to know is what proportion of each group behaved in the way that the summary description implies, compared with how many did not. Introducing the control group doesn't help with that -- though it does give us a second group of which to ask the same question.

The reason I want to know is that I want to try to figure out the probability that the next person I see who mentions or sees something about money will in fact behave in those five ways, or any one of them. If I'm going to use this fact in reasoning about how some person I know behaves in relationship to money, I need to be able to estimate the chances that I will come to a wrong conclusion -- particularly if my reasoning depends on two or three facts of the same general nature.

So -- does the article give any information about the actual numbers of people showing these reactions to the treatment?

Best,

Bill P.

[From Bill Powers (2008.12.09.1838 MST)]

Ted Cloak (2008.12.09.1236 MST) --

Since the measures were all quantitative in nature (how many centimeters
experimental subjects sat away from others compared to how many centimeters
control subjects did so, how many experimental subjects waited how long
before asking for help as compared to controls, etc.), an answer in
either/or terms wouldn't be appropriate.

I don't understand what you mean by "an answer in either-or terms." Surely some subjects waited longer than the average of the controls, and some didn't wait as long. The distance one is hard to judge, because one person can adjust the distance between himself and several other people, so at one extreme, it looks as if you could get an increase of average distance if only something like 1/3 of the people made adjustments of the average size. It's ambiguous because it takes two people to make one distance, but only one person to change several distances. And of course some people would make bigger adjustments than others.

  So the answer to your last
question is that the probability is very high that the next person you meet
will act differently if he's been exposed to money than if not.

I don't see how you get to that. It seems to me that if only a few people show a large reaction to the money exposure, that would be enough to get the population result, but it could lead to more than a 50-50 chance that you'd be wrong in predicting that any randomly-selected person would show a reaction in the predicted direction. I'm just guessing, of course -- we'd need a lot more information about the results to come to any firm conclusions. Maybe you know more about them. If I thought it would have any effect, I'd work up a simulation showing what I mean. But I don't, at the moment, see much hope for that to succeed.

Have you ever seen that volume edited by Wayne Hershberger called "Volitional Action"? In it, I have a simulation in which a population of 4000 control systems shows an overall positive reaction of the population to positive changes in a reward variable, while every control system in fact reacts negatively, without exception, to changes in that variable.

I never have had much luck trying to get all this stuff across about the problems of using population variables to predict individual behavior. Richard Kennaway did a very nice analysis showing that you've better not try it unless your correlations are very high, in the high 90s, and even then the predictions are pretty poor and possibly exactly backward. He got thoroughly ignored. I think that this practice is simply too deeply rooted in psychology and similar fields for anyone doing it to go through the upheaval of grasping what is wrong with it.

If this round doesn't elicit any analysis of real data, I'll just quietly return the subject to a back burner and try again in a few more years. There are probably two or three more rounds left in me. I've explained what sort of calculation is necessary to find out what I asking about, but while I've heard all sort of objections, nobody has actually done it. I think some of you guys out there are scared to death of finding the answer because you have a suspicion of what it's going to be.

So there.

Best,

Bill P.

···

Best
Ted

[From Bill Powers (2008.12.06.1049 MST)]

Ted Cloak (2008.12.05.1735 MST) --

>Here's the abstract of the Science article:
>
>"Money has been said to change people's motivation (mainly for the better)
>and their behavior toward others (mainly for the worse). The results of
nine
>experiments suggest that money brings about a self-sufficient orientation
in
>which people prefer to be free of dependency and dependents. Reminders of
>money, relative to nonmoney reminders, led to reduced requests for help and
>reduced helpfulness toward others. Relative to participants primed with
>neutral concepts, participants primed with money preferred to play alone,
>work alone, and put more physical distance between themselves and a new
>acquaintance."
>
>Each experiment involved a different set of subjects, apparently. Ns were
in
>the 30s through 60s, with none smaller than 35. All results represented
>_tendencies_; i.e., differences betweens means of experimental groups
>(usually two in each experiment) and control groups. Some differences were
>quite striking, all were statistically significant at p<.05 or better.
>Singer should have inserted the words "on average", perhaps, in each of the
>statements you quote.

That doesn't really answer my question -- what I really want to know
is what proportion of each group behaved in the way that the summary
description implies, compared with how many did not. Introducing the
control group doesn't help with that -- though it does give us a
second group of which to ask the same question.

The reason I want to know is that I want to try to figure out the
probability that the next person I see who mentions or sees something
about money will in fact behave in those five ways, or any one of
them. If I'm going to use this fact in reasoning about how some
person I know behaves in relationship to money, I need to be able to
estimate the chances that I will come to a wrong conclusion --
particularly if my reasoning depends on two or three facts of the
same general nature.

So -- does the article give any information about the actual numbers
of people showing these reactions to the treatment?

Best,

Bill P.

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[From Ted Cloak (2008.12.05.1654 MST)]

I checked out the original article.* I think its conclusions hold up, and
that Singer represents them accurately here.

Ted
___________
* The psychological consequences of money. Science, vol. 314, 17 Nov 06, p.
1154.

Ted, since you have access to the original article, would you check out some details about the data? We have five facts that this research revealed:

    * When given a difficult task and told that help was available, people
in the money group took longer to ask for help.

    * When asked for help, people in the money group spent less time
helping.

    * When told to move their chair so that they could talk with someone
else, people in the money group left a greater distance between chairs.

    * When asked to choose a leisure activity, people in the money group
were more likely to choose an activity that could be enjoyed alone, rather
than one that involved others.

    * Finally, when people in the money group were invited to donate some of
the money they had been paid for participation in the experiment, they gave
less than those who had not been induced to think about money.

A naive reader of these conclusions might interpret them to meant that money always has these effects on every person. It would be helpful to know exactly how many individuals behaved as indicated by each starred paragraph, and how many did not. Can you tell us those numbers?

Best,

Bill P.

[From Ted Cloak (2008.12.05.1735 MST)]

Here's the abstract of the Science article:

"Money has been said to change people's motivation (mainly for the better)
and their behavior toward others (mainly for the worse). The results of nine
experiments suggest that money brings about a self-sufficient orientation in
which people prefer to be free of dependency and dependents. Reminders of
money, relative to nonmoney reminders, led to reduced requests for help and
reduced helpfulness toward others. Relative to participants primed with
neutral concepts, participants primed with money preferred to play alone,
work alone, and put more physical distance between themselves and a new
acquaintance."

Each experiment involved a different set of subjects, apparently. Ns were in
the 30s through 60s, with none smaller than 35. All results represented
_tendencies_; i.e., differences betweens means of experimental groups
(usually two in each experiment) and control groups. Some differences were
quite striking, all were statistically significant at p<.05 or better.
Singer should have inserted the words "on average", perhaps, in each of the
statements you quote.

I can send you the original article and the on-line supporting materials in
pdf form.

Regards,
Ted

[From Ted Cloak (2008.12.05.1654 MST)]

I checked out the original article.* I think its conclusions hold up, and
that Singer represents them accurately here.

Ted
___________
* The psychological consequences of money. Science, vol. 314, 17 Nov 06, p.
1154.

[From Bill Powers (Friday, December 05, 2008 4:59 PM)]

Ted, since you have access to the original article, would you check
out some details about the data? We have five facts that this
research revealed:

    * When given a difficult task and told that help was available, people
in the money group took longer to ask for help.

    * When asked for help, people in the money group spent less time
helping.

    * When told to move their chair so that they could talk with someone
else, people in the money group left a greater distance between chairs.

    * When asked to choose a leisure activity, people in the money group
were more likely to choose an activity that could be enjoyed alone, rather
than one that involved others.

    * Finally, when people in the money group were invited to donate some

of

the money they had been paid for participation in the experiment, they gave
less than those who had not been induced to think about money.

A naive reader of these conclusions might interpret them to meant
that money always has these effects on every person. It would be
helpful to know exactly how many individuals behaved as indicated by
each starred paragraph, and how many did not. Can you tell us those numbers?

Best,

Bill P.

[From Ted Cloak (2008.12.09.1236 MST)]

Since the measures were all quantitative in nature (how many centimeters
experimental subjects sat away from others compared to how many centimeters
control subjects did so, how many experimental subjects waited how long
before asking for help as compared to controls, etc.), an answer in
either/or terms wouldn't be appropriate. So the answer to your last
question is that the probability is very high that the next person you meet
will act differently if he's been exposed to money than if not.

Best
Ted

[From Bill Powers (2008.12.06.1049 MST)]

Ted Cloak (2008.12.05.1735 MST) --

Here's the abstract of the Science article:

"Money has been said to change people's motivation (mainly for the better)
and their behavior toward others (mainly for the worse). The results of

nine

experiments suggest that money brings about a self-sufficient orientation

in

which people prefer to be free of dependency and dependents. Reminders of
money, relative to nonmoney reminders, led to reduced requests for help and
reduced helpfulness toward others. Relative to participants primed with
neutral concepts, participants primed with money preferred to play alone,
work alone, and put more physical distance between themselves and a new
acquaintance."

Each experiment involved a different set of subjects, apparently. Ns were

in

the 30s through 60s, with none smaller than 35. All results represented
_tendencies_; i.e., differences betweens means of experimental groups
(usually two in each experiment) and control groups. Some differences were
quite striking, all were statistically significant at p<.05 or better.
Singer should have inserted the words "on average", perhaps, in each of the
statements you quote.

That doesn't really answer my question -- what I really want to know
is what proportion of each group behaved in the way that the summary
description implies, compared with how many did not. Introducing the
control group doesn't help with that -- though it does give us a
second group of which to ask the same question.

The reason I want to know is that I want to try to figure out the
probability that the next person I see who mentions or sees something
about money will in fact behave in those five ways, or any one of
them. If I'm going to use this fact in reasoning about how some
person I know behaves in relationship to money, I need to be able to
estimate the chances that I will come to a wrong conclusion --
particularly if my reasoning depends on two or three facts of the
same general nature.

So -- does the article give any information about the actual numbers
of people showing these reactions to the treatment?

Best,

Bill P.

[From Martin Lewitt (2008.12.09.2223 MST)]
It is an interesting study. Perhaps the reminders of money reminded that
group of its value and the value of their time. Singer didn't say what the
donation options were, but more productive uses may have come to mind
from the thoughts stimulated by the exposure. I know that when I read
the annual report for United Blood Services, I became disgusted with how
the $25 dollars per donation they cleared was spent. I'd rather have been
paid that amount, because I know I could have put it to better use than
the big office and laboratory edifaces they were constructing. I wonder
if these researchers realized that seeing money might make the
subjects think of the United Way for instance, an umbrella organization
for charities that couldn't make it on their own merits.

There seems to be an assumption that the donation options would
appeal to the subjects altruistic values, I don't think we can judge
the correctness of that without knowing what the specifics of those
options. If the exposure to money merely encouraged thrift, that
might be a better thing in the long run, for truly worthwhile charities.

The specialization and separation may explain why parents have
abdicated their responsibiltiy, and surrendered the education
of their children to factory model institutions.

-- Martin

···

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Ted Cloak" <tcloak@unm.edu>

This appeared in the latest Free Inquiry magazine. I found it on the
website of Project Syndicate as well, and copied it from there.

I checked out the original article.* I think its conclusions hold up, and
that Singer represents them accurately here.

Ted
___________
* The psychological consequences of money. Science, vol. 314, 17 Nov 06, p.
1154.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Project Syndicate
The Hidden Costs of Money
by Peter Singer

PRINCETON - When people say that "Money is the root of all evil," they
usually don't mean that money itself is the root of evil. Like Saint Paul,
from whom the quote comes, they have in mind the love of money. Could money
itself, whether we are greedy for it or not, be a problem?

Karl Marx thought so. In The Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844,
a youthful work that remained unpublished and largely unknown until the
mid-twentieth century, Marx describes money as "the universal agent of
separation," because it transforms human characteristics into something
else. A man may be ugly, Marx wrote, but if he has money, he can buy for
himself "the most beautiful of women." Without money, presumably, some more
positive human qualities would be needed. Money alienates us, Marx thought,
from our true human nature and from our fellow human beings.

Marx's reputation sank once it became evident that he was wrong to predict
that a workers' revolution would usher in a new era with a better life for
everyone. So if we had only his word for the alienating effects of money, we
might feel free to dismiss it as an element of a misguided ideology. But
research by Kathleen Vohs, Nicole Mead, and Miranda Goode, reported in
Science in 2006, suggests that on this point, at least, Marx was onto
something.

In a series of experiments, Vohs and her colleagues found ways to get people
to think about money without explicitly telling them to do so. They gave
some people tasks that involved unscrambling phrases about money. With
others, they left piles of Monopoly money nearby. Another group saw a
screensaver with various denominations of money. Other people, randomly
selected, unscrambled phrases that were not about money, did not see
Monopoly money, and saw different screensavers. In each case, those who had
been led to think about money - let's call them "the money group" - behaved
differently from those who had not.

    * When given a difficult task and told that help was available, people
in the money group took longer to ask for help.

    * When asked for help, people in the money group spent less time
helping.

    * When told to move their chair so that they could talk with someone
else, people in the money group left a greater distance between chairs.

    * When asked to choose a leisure activity, people in the money group
were more likely to choose an activity that could be enjoyed alone, rather
than one that involved others.

    * Finally, when people in the money group were invited to donate some of
the money they had been paid for participation in the experiment, they gave
less than those who had not been induced to think about money.

Trivial reminders of money made a surprisingly large difference. For
example, where the control group would offer to spend an average of 42
minutes helping someone with a task, those primed to think about money
offered only 25 minutes. Similarly, when someone pretending to be another
participant in the experiment asked for help, the money group spent only
half as much time helping her. When asked to make a donation from their
earnings, the money group gave just a little over half as much as the
control group.

Why does money makes us less willing to seek or give help, or even to sit
close to others? Vohs and her colleagues suggest that as societies began to
use money, the necessity of relying on family and friends diminished, and
people were able to become more self-sufficient. "In this way," they
conclude, "money enhanced individualism but diminished communal motivations,
an effect that is still apparent in people's responses today."

That's not much of an explanation of why being reminded of money should make
so much difference to how we behave, given that we all use money everyday.
There seems to be something going on here that we still don't fully
understand.

I am not pleading for a return to the simpler days of barter or
self-sufficiency. Money enables us to trade - and thus to benefit from each
other's special skills and advantages. Without money, we would be
immeasurably poorer, and not only in a financial sense.

But now that we are aware of the isolating power that even the thought of
money can have, we can no longer think of money's role as being entirely
neutral. If, for example, a local parents' organization wants to build a
children's playground, should it ask its members to do the work on a
voluntary basis, or should it launch a fundraising campaign so that an
outside contractor can be employed?

Harvard economist Roland Fryer's proposal to pay poor students for doing
well at school is another area where using money is open to question. If
money were neutral, this would be just a question of whether the benefits of
using money outweigh the financial costs. Often, they will - for example, if
the parents lack the skills to build a good playground. But it would be a
mistake to assume that allowing money to dominate every sphere of life comes
without other costs that are difficult to express in financial terms.

Peter Singer is Professor of Bioethics at Princeton University and the
author of Animal Liberation, Practical Ethics, and other books. He is
currently working on a book about philanthropy and world poverty.

Copyright: Project Syndicate, 2008.
www.project-syndicate.org