{From Jim Dundon 940209.1850
>Martin Taylor 940207.1945
>>Rick Marken 940207.0900
>If I remember correctly, my first naive attempt to introduce
>information theory to CSG-L was based on the information
>stability of a closed loop, stability implied by the
>fact of control.
>>The behavior of variables in a closed loop is completely
>>different than the behavior of the same varables when
>>the loop is open. This is why open-loop based model
>>model is irrelevent to understanding purposefull
>>behavior.
Rick, Martin,
I beg your patience, the engineer may look at this somewhat
differently, but the concept "open Loop" Is difficult
to grasp.
As I see transmission lines they are loop
segments that have no purpose except to function in
conjunction with purpose. They are useless except in use.
They are given value by purposefull organisms.
For all practical purposes they are non-existent unless
in use. When in use they are part of another loop. The loop
that Rick, Bill, Martin, Jim help to create
when we sit down to
the computer and use plastic, copper, paint, electricity,
fuel, etc. in a warm room filled with furniture, The loop
of political economy, of money flowing in one direction
and consumable goods in the other. A little like neurons
and energy flowing in opposite directions.
In any event, a transmission line is a loop segment that
has no purpose unless in use, and its value is value in
exchange. It's purpose is to facilitate exchange of value
Call the medium intelligence, information, whatever,
it's function is to facilitate a certain kind of exchange
of value, and as such is part of a loop, not a loop.
It facilitates the influence of one variable upon
another in the exchange of value. Sounds like a PCT axiom.
Rick, Martin
If the above view is accurate, can a transmission line
have a counterpart in function in a living organism
closed loop, that is as part of the loop. as a nerve
maybe?
Would axioms of PCT be usable in an economic loop?
In view of the fact that you view human behavior as
purposefull, would it be safe to assume that you
consider the whole economic activity as purposefull
or as an expression of purpose?
loop?
Rick, Bill L.
thank you both for for your help. thirteen-fourteen hour
days standing up will limit my participation mostly
to weekends. I will look them over between now and then.
Best, JIM D.