(Gavin Ritz 2011.03.28.15.34NZT)
My sister got it first time up because she knows
nothing about psychology theories.
Her friend abused her verbally because she
sent a txt to her (my other) sister. (I’ve got a whole bunch of them-not abusers
but sisters)
Now my sister knew her friend was trying
to control something but what she didn’t realize was that it her friend’s
own reality that her friend was trying to control. We will never know what that
is.
Everything we “do” or “say”
is about controlling some aspect of our Reality.
Even when we look at an object we are
controlling its shape and hues (both nouns of the word hue). Simply called control
of intensities, sensations and configurations in PCT.
Behavior in PCT does not mean the same
thing as in psychology theories, it means really only one thing “control
of our reality” or in PCT speak Control of Perception.
So when you see the word behavior substitute
it with the words “controlling an individual’s unique reality”.
Try it and see what happens
So when you see the next “loony tune”
just remember that person is only controlling their reality. Maybe they are
quite okay and we are the loony tunes.
You have to find your own unique way in
the understanding of PCT. This is really the key to your creative learning
experience with PCT.
But fire away with questions anytime.
Kind regards
Gavin
Gavin,
I’m trying to learn more about PCT. I’ve been studying and reading a lot about
it the last few months and i can say that it’s sinking in slowly just as some
on here have said it will.
Would you please tell more about the conversation you had with your sister
about her friend’s behavior…not specifics…but what you related to her so
she could understand in PCT terms what her friend was trying to do.
Thank you!
Ross
(Gavin Ritz 2011.03.26.15.21NZT)
[From Fred Nickols (2011.03.25.0936 PDT)]
Bill Powers (2011.03.25.0938 Mdt)]
Fred Nickols (2011.03.21.1447)
I really like these positive
and buoyant responses on the PCT list. They make us want to participate and add
value.
There is such a rich amount
of stuff in PCT.
I have just come off the
Skype with my sister she lives in Playa del Rey (Calif), explaining to her about the
horrendous behaviour of an old friend of hers.
At the end of the dialogue
she totally understood her friend’s behaviour all in PCT. She got it
first time up.
I started by saying to her,
your friend isn’t behaving she’s trying to control her reality.
Great stuff Fred. I’m working hard on this too.
Kind regards
Gavin
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Gavin Ritz garritz@xtra.co.nz wrote:
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BP: Not only is this paper a
beautiful application of PCT, but it’s
beautifully organized and
written. And beyond that, it introduces the
concepts of proximal and
ultimate goals, an ordering not by level but
by time that involves mental
models of the world, which may lead to a
new level in the hierarchy
or at least a new understanding of existing
levels.
FN: Wow! I’m terribly
flattered. I never expected such a response. You
are certainly free to pass
along the paper to the people you met at the
University of Nevada.
As it happens, John Kirkland had asked me about “anticipation” in relation
to the frequently used
driving examples and I will try to post something
relevant to that inquiry
here.
In crude form, I think we do
anticipate; for instance, I think we predict
disturbances. In
getting to work, I have a route in mind, a path I intend
following. That is a
reference signal for route traveled. As I move along,
my perceptions inform me
that I am on track or off as the case may be. Up
ahead I see some road
construction and barriers that will force me to take
an exit I did not originally
intend taking. I am knowledgeable of the roads
and streets in the area and
I quickly revise my intended route. Depending
on the extent of the
required revision, I might also have to revise my
intended arrival time.
Therein is a big difference to my way of thinking -
the difference between route
and arrival time.
To my way of thinking, route
and arrival time are both variables and both
are potential targets for
control. Arrival time, however, is simply a point
in time and it can be
expressed in numeric form as hour/minute. Route,
however, in my mind or to my
way of thinking, is at least a two-dimensional
matter (e.g., in the form of
a map showing streets, turns, etc). My
perceptions allow me to
figure out where I am in that route and, in
conjunction with my
perception of the time and the progress I’m making,
allow me to gauge whether I
am on track or off track with respect to route
and arrival time. As
you said, Bill, it’s a
mental model. I’m not sure
where that kind of thing
shows up in the HPCT hierarchy. I told John
Kirkland I thought maybe at the level of program (for setting and following
the route).
Anyway, thanks for the
compliment and I’ll certainly ponder this some more.
Regards,
Fred Nickols
Managing Partner
Distance Consulting LLC
1558 Coshcoton Avenue - Suite 303
Mount Vernon, OH 43050-5416
www.nickols.us | fred@nickols.us
“Assistance at a
Distance”
-----Original Message-----
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Network (CSGnet)
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On Behalf Of Bill Powers
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 8:56 AM
To: CSGNET@LISTSERV.ILLINOIS.EDU
Subject: Re: The Target
Model and PCT
My late co-founder of PCT, Bob Clark, tried to introduce a level
involving something like
what you are proposing. He referred to it as
“temporal
control,” but never was able to find a useful way to define
or model it. You have made
this dimension of control much clearer,
and I think that if you
focus on this for a while with the target of
fitting your idea into the
hierarchy as it now exists, you can
improve what we have or add
something to it. Just keep thinking “how”
and “why”. What
abilities must already exist to control for ultimate
results, and where in the hierarchy
does perception of the ultimate result
fit?
I’d like permission to copy
this paper to the people I met at a
meeting, Monday and Tuesday,
at the University of Nevada.
Best,
Bill P.