Was "RE: Feedback", Now: Question on clinical application of PCT

As i work as a clinician, i am most interested in the practical application of PCT. As i cultivate my understanding of the theory (and i already feel it is helping me help others) i'm searching for experiential interventions that i can use to assist clients in the office in understanding their problems/conflicts from a PCT perspective - to reveal themselves as a control system. I've read the book "Freedom From Stress" by Mr. Ford that discussed two types of directives he uses to show clients how we operate as control systems. Has anyone on the list developed other "techniques" to reveal this insight other than the computer models on Rick's site and the rubber-band exercise that i might use with a client? Thank you.

David Hubbard

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[From Rick Marken (2005.12.14.2000)]

Marc Abrams (2005.12.14.2158)--

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No thanks, not my cup of tea.

What is your cup if tea? I thought you were very interested in memory?

Regards

Rick
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[From Bjorn Simonsen (2005.12.15, 22:40 EUST)]
Received from David Hubbard 2005.12.15, 17:40 EUST.
15.12.05 17:40

As i cultivate my understanding of the theory
(and i already feel it is helping me help others)
i'm searching for experiential interventions that
i can use to assist clients in the office in
understanding their problems/conflicts from a
PCT perspective - to reveal themselves as a control system.

Hi David. Go to http://www.livingcontrolsystems.com/ , click on "The Method
of levels" /Tim A. Carey. Buy it. I am just reading it and I find the book
great, really great.
Good Luck.

Bjorn

Bjorn: Thanks for your reply. I did just that on Tuesday. It should be here in two weeks.

[mailto:CSGNET@LISTSERV.UIUC.EDU]On Behalf Of Bj�rn Simonsen

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[From Bjorn Simonsen (2005.12.15, 22:40 EUST)]
Received from David Hubbard 2005.12.15, 17:40 EUST.
15.12.05 17:40

As i cultivate my understanding of the theory
(and i already feel it is helping me help others)
i'm searching for experiential interventions that
i can use to assist clients in the office in
understanding their problems/conflicts from a
PCT perspective - to reveal themselves as a control system.

Hi David. Go to http://www.livingcontrolsystems.com/ , click on "The Method
of levels" /Tim A. Carey. Buy it. I am just reading it and I find the book
great, really great.
Good Luck.

Bjorn

From [Marc Abrams (2005.12.15.1724)]

In a message dated 12/15/2005 4:05:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DHubbard@BRIDGEWAY.ORG writes:

Hi David and welcome to CSGnet. You might want to consider using a header similar to the one you see at the top of this post when posting. It makes replying to a number of different contributors to a thread easier.

There are no “PCT Applications” any more than there are “evolution applications” , “behaviorist applications”, or CogSci applications

PCT is specific theory of perceptual control, a theory that describes how human behavior occurs.

I believe you are correct in thinking that the better you come to understand perceptual control the better you will see how it explains what you are interested in it explaining.

I hope Fred provides that example I asked for because I believe it would also be of benefit to you. Perhaps you have an ‘application’ and a related theory you believe accounts for it?

Regards,

Marc

David Hubbard wrote:

As i work as a clinician, i am most interested in the practical application of PCT. As i cultivate my understanding of the theory (and i already feel it is helping me help others) i'm searching for experiential interventions that i can use to assist clients in the office in understanding their problems/conflicts from a PCT perspective - to reveal themselves as a control system. I've read the book "Freedom From Stress" by Mr. Ford that discussed two types of directives he uses to show clients how we operate as control systems. Has anyone on the list developed other "techniques" to reveal this insight other than the computer models on Rick's site and the rubber-band exercise that i might use with a client? Thank you.

David Hubbard

From: Control Systems Group Network (CSGnet)
[mailto:CSGNET@LISTSERV.UIUC.EDU]On Behalf Of Rick Marken
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:58 PM
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Subject: Re: Feedback

Yes, I wrote a whole book on it. It is called, "setting your own egostat."

Best,

Dick R

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