[From Rick Marken (940903.1100)]
Obviously, I got the wrong date on my previous post. It was posted on
940902, not 940828 of whatever was there.
Martin Taylor (940901 13:40) --
You might like, then, to find a good PCT-theoretic reason why among the
nations with roughly equivalent living standards, the US has by far the
most expensive health care system and one of the worst health-care
Bill Leach (940902.05:57 EST) --
I might but then it would be necessary for me to believe that this
assertion is true. Given even that I believed that it is true (and I
don't), there is still the matter of why.
Givem Bill Powers' recent caveat about the quality of social data, I
suppose one has to respect this conclusion. I am going to try to check
the World Almanac today for infant mortality rates in differnt countries.
I don't have one at home so if anyone can get this data I would appreciate
it. Would the World Almanac qualify as a data source that does not have a
vested interest in the health care debate? Does infant mortality count
with you (Bill L.) as a reasonable measure of the quality of a nation's
health care? If not, why not?
Does anyone know of an unbiased, archival source of information about
per capita health care costs? I have seen such numbers but they probably
were presented by advocates of a single payer systems.
Suppose that we could get data from what we could all agree was an unbiased
source (or, better, a source that was biased in the US health care direction)
that showed that countries with single payer type health care systems payed
less per capita for health care and had lower infant mortality rates than
the US. Would this incline you (Bill L.) to at least be willing to TRY a single
payer system here? My guess is "no" because (based on what you say about it)
it seems to me that you are controlling for something other than "best
health care for all". I think you are controlling for a perception of
the government being out of it; as long as that perception is under
control (which it seems to be now) then I don't think it would matter if
you found that our infant mortality rate is comparable to that in
Zambia. It may be the shittiest health care system in the world, but
at least the govenment isn't involved.
By the way, if it turns out that our health care system is the cheapest,
with the lowest infant motality rate of any developed nation, then I'll
fight the "government takeover of health care system" right along with you.
I'm controlling for good health care for everyone at the lowest cost
possible cost. I am not controlling for the means used to achieve it. If
"free enterprise" is the best route, then great. It would be a huge surprise
if it was -- but that would be fine. It would be nice for the Republicans
to be right ONCE;-)